Ok, other than the part that it would happen any second, I always imagined it very dusty...from places like churches and United Nations buildings (and my dreaded first grade teacher's house!!!) being angel bombed....Dusty. Shoshana
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How did you imagine Armageddon?
by JH inwhen you were a jw, how did you imagine armageddon would be like?
did you imagine it would be short, long?
i remember some saying that they would live in beautiful houses that god spared, just for them.
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Things Learned Along the Way
by blondie ini have collected sayings, homilies, whatever along the way that crystallize something bigger i learned.
i will post a few every day.
if you have one, please share it.. if you lie down with dogs, you'll get up with fleas.. to belittle is to be little.. somewhere, i got the idea if i just took care of others, i would be taken care of.. blondie
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My mother's favorite, which I reject whole-heartedly is "Be sincere whether you mean it or not." (yes, this was the "years of therapy issue.") Shoshana
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What JW Teaching Did You Never Quite Totally Accept???
by minimus insince i was raised a witness, it was only as i got older that i started to "think" about what i was teaching and believing.
but even as a young teen, i never accepted the thought that 1975 was going to be the end of the "system of things" and the beginning of the "new system".
i just didn't quite believe that.........what belief or teaching did you have a "hard time swallowing"?
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When I was first introduced to the concept of DNA in science class, I was incredibly curious. I began to research at the library, as much as I could and found out how closely related all life forms were, but for one amino acid here, another there...What I started to consider was that the "animal" life forms supposedly didn't undergo any changes because of original sin, but that animals had a life-span that eventually ended, as did humans. Every cell in every life form dies, including in humans. Since there were no differences between humans, and say dogs that were any greater than between dogs and say kangaroo rats, then how could the human be different enough to live forever. The whole "You can live forever in Paradise on Earth" became an instant load of hooey to me. If there were something beyond death, it wasn't gonna be forever in the same body...So the whole premise of the religion failed for me on that one teaching I just couldn't believe. I'm happy to say God hasn't struck me down yet. Shoshana
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Have You Ever Served as an Attendant? Share Your Stories!
by Funchback ini remember being a jw lad (about 10 or 11 years old).
i would be at the circuit assembly and, at around 10:45 am, about 8 brothers would get up, walk slowly up the aisle, glancing at each row of their "section", their lips quivering as they silently count each person, trying to maintain focus as nearly each jw makes eye contact them (even though everyone knew what the attendants were doing!
did i want to grow up to be the president of the united states?
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Funchie, no need to apologize for y'all being dorks, you couldn't help it. It was the boys o' bethel who sent those special cards to wear under you name tags that said "attendant" that had all the single sisters looking first for the tag, and then for a ring on your finger. There was no way around being a dork, or at least appearing to be one. Me, I tend to go for geeks, not dorks, but all the geeks were smart enough to get put into the sound booth, so I never saw them...Shoshana (who liked to leave things in the aisle to see if she could get them to trip over it.)
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Have You Ever Served as an Attendant? Share Your Stories!
by Funchback ini remember being a jw lad (about 10 or 11 years old).
i would be at the circuit assembly and, at around 10:45 am, about 8 brothers would get up, walk slowly up the aisle, glancing at each row of their "section", their lips quivering as they silently count each person, trying to maintain focus as nearly each jw makes eye contact them (even though everyone knew what the attendants were doing!
did i want to grow up to be the president of the united states?
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Funchie, I thought y'all were dorks myself. I couldn't have been more than 7 when I realized that I could count just as well as they could and everyone thought they were special "inspired counters..." My mother was never able to manipulate my attitude or conduct into accepting that a man who could count up a few hundred people was more worthy than me. There was a group of us that tried to get to go to the restroom as soon as we saw the count start. It spread to other subversive minded children who were paying loose enough attention to the program to notice some of us kids were playing a game. After a few circuit assemblies, we got an "announcement" from the stage. We considered it a victory. Now that I am a teacher and see all the creative things the kids do to entertain themselves when they are bored, I am humbled in my lack inspiration in this area. Shoshana
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Another JW related murder/suicide
by La Capra ini just spoke to my mother this morning, who at the end of the conversation said, almost as a side note, that my brother's ex-wife's brother shot his estranged wife and then himself last saturday.
my former sister-in-law and her brother were both raised as second (or third) generation jws.
i only met her brother a few times, never cared for him (misogynist prick), but he was a jw at the time i met him.
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Nathan, I am not sure that Stephanie was a JW. Her funeral was at a mortuary, not the Kingdom Hall. However, it is ironic, that Leo, the murderer got to attend my brother's wedding celebration, and I, who have never murdered anyone, did not get to attend. They'd rather associate with murderers than someone who disassociated... Soon I will point that out to my mother. The irony WILL NOT be wasted on her. The boy, who is ten, attends a very small school (with my nieces), only about 40 kids (K-8). This is something that will be with them always, so long as they are in their little town. I sincerely hope someone is thinking clearly and decides to get them all out of there into a fresh start where people won't really know what happened. My nieces deserve a nicer childhood than what has just been set before them. They will have a difficult enough time reconciling that the "God they believe in" will resurrect Leo AND Stephanie, without people constantly thinking about what their uncle did. Shoshana
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Another JW related murder/suicide
by La Capra ini just spoke to my mother this morning, who at the end of the conversation said, almost as a side note, that my brother's ex-wife's brother shot his estranged wife and then himself last saturday.
my former sister-in-law and her brother were both raised as second (or third) generation jws.
i only met her brother a few times, never cared for him (misogynist prick), but he was a jw at the time i met him.
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I just spoke to my mother this morning, who at the end of the conversation said, almost as a side note, that my brother's ex-wife's brother shot his estranged wife and then himself last Saturday. My former sister-in-law and her brother were both raised as second (or third) generation JWs. I only met her brother a few times, never cared for him (misogynist prick), but he was a JW at the time I met him. I don't know what their current status was at the time of this horrible tragedy. I will attempt to post the link to the two local stories in the paper in Hollister, California. If they don't work, hopefully someone else can fix it up for me. You may find other stories out of Salinas, Gilroy or the greater Silicon Valley areas. The Hollister paper mentioned nothing about JWs. Shoshana http://www.freelancenews.com/news/newsview.asp?c=75910 ********and*********** http://www.freelancenews.com/news/newsview.asp?c=76086
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So who has a song which mentions her/his name?
by berylblue insmile a little smile for me, rosemarie, rosemarie.
smile a little smile for me, rosemarie, rosemarie.
smile a little smile for me, rosemarie, rosemarie.
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Oh Susanna, don't you cry for me.... And wouldn't ya'll know, I'm a crier....Shoshana
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Future Educators of America
by joannadandy ini am going to be a teacher of english when i grow up (please don't e-mail me every grammatical error i make here).
high school to be exact.
this is my final year.
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Joanna-I used to score the PRAXIS II, years ago, but in math, not English. DON'T leave anything blank, and get into the topic and you'll at least get "2" for the question. Also, if you haven't yet, and there is time, use the preparations recommended that PRAXIS publishes. Going in knowing what to expect is more than half the battle. Remember, once you pass, they don't care how well you passed. Don't shoot your wad on things you know really well, only to run out of time on things you don't know so well (particularly pedagogy). You only need ot average 3's to pass. One or two good 4's (fives are nigh impossible) only to get 1's on a few others because you didn't get into topic and only had time for a sentence or two before time ran out doesn't make sense. You can't imagine the number of times we graders could be heard muttering "This person shouldn't be teaching math." I imagine the graders in the English room were doing the same thing. You'll do fine, though. And if not, you can take it again, knowing all the better what to expect. Good Luck. Shoshana
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How Did 1975 Affect You?
by Perry ini saw my uncle sell their house..... only later to feel and look like idiots.
i remember all the buzz about the end coming around my own house.
since i was a naturally inqusitive child (the question why is not good for theocratic advancement) i was made to feel stupid for questioning, even at 7 and 8 years old.
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It was the same for me as it was for Perry. I was 7 and 8 (for 7 days) in 1975. I had been hearing about 1975 since I could remember. I even vividly remember a "special talk" one cold night at the fairgrounds from a GB, (I was probably four-it was my first red coat-the one my mom made, I got the second red coat in first grade-store bought) who mentioned 1975 several times during the talk. My mom admits we went to a talk one cold night, that it was at the fairgrounds, but denies that 1975 was ever mentioned....I counted on a calendar how many days I might have left too. I couldn't sleep (except at the hall) because I was too afraid. And if I did sleep I had horrible nightmares about it. The nightmares continued until I was in high school, and my BS detector hit the red zone. Shoshana